Comments on: Beat Keyloggers at they Own Game – Simple Ways to Avoid Information Theft http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html mostly white-hat hacker stuff Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:05:43 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Alex http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-67858 Alex Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:43:53 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-67858 Another way is to open (say) Notepad, type the alphabet and other random symbols, then copy and paste using the mouse. Another way is to open (say) Notepad, type the alphabet and other random symbols, then copy and paste using the mouse.

]]> By: duffyfan http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-67697 duffyfan Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:48:37 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-67697 i have found out recently that my boyfriend of 3 and a half years has uploaded a key logging device on his computer, i found it by error. he visits facebook all the time - some random girls i d ont know and also looks at porn. The thing is he deletes his web browsing history... but not kis key logging history. Now not sure what to do. why is he keeping tabs on me? i have found out recently that my boyfriend of 3 and a half years has uploaded a key logging device on his computer, i found it by error.

he visits facebook all the time – some random girls i d ont know and also looks at porn. The thing is he deletes his web browsing history… but not kis key logging history. Now not sure what to do. why is he keeping tabs on me?

]]> By: Smith MORGAN http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-51288 Smith MORGAN Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:00:30 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-51288 I need a cc cracker software I need a cc cracker software

]]> By: Josh http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-50110 Josh Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:06:58 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-50110 So if they keylogger doesn't keep track of mouseclick events, would it not screw up the keylog even more if you were to say, type in a mass of random numbers, symbols, and letters in no methodical order? Then once you type some massive list of unorderliness, click and highlight bits and pieces to type a single letter here and there along with other characters that are already inevitably typed in the barrage, thus making up the password? To be able to parse something like: p467gjaj,d7g$45fdj$dfhsdw5gndc0hgdnfrgh7kodsgreb might be easy if you look for reoccurring characters, however, if you were to try to parse: ooiuw4jlkwfen98w3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfj3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfjJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjoiuw4jlkwfen98w3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfjAJKslfj I'm not sure if someone would have the patience to try to parse that manually. I guess really, the only REAL way of staying safe would be NOT to login/purchase on a computer that you don't own, right? So if they keylogger doesn’t keep track of mouseclick events, would it not screw up the keylog even more if you were to say, type in a mass of random numbers, symbols, and letters in no methodical order? Then once you type some massive list of unorderliness, click and highlight bits and pieces to type a single letter here and there along with other characters that are already inevitably typed in the barrage, thus making up the password? To be able to parse something like:
p467gjaj,d7g$45fdj$dfhsdw5gndc0hgdnfrgh7kodsgreb
might be easy if you look for reoccurring characters, however, if you were to try to parse:
ooiuw4jlkwfen98w3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfj3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfjJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjoiuw4jlkwfen98w3,Wksaorq38u4AWkua3*#,kjaseri9*&@kj#i7@Kkj7#JskasdfiAWkKAJhGEI&#$KJui7EKj#$I7jkEK#UiEKJekjersllWE:l#I&#KjISJA@HK@QKSDIUSKJFSHIE&kjdskfsjdyf9iWJK#k&SEkfjshI&#kJR&EAKLJyerI#&KSAJSDFI7ewrKJASERIs*dfKAJAREkjESIT*&sekjfIE&rkjw4osa78setyoiaw4hasdfi7EOKue4lkwj3s78KEJ&$AJKslfjAJKslfj
I’m not sure if someone would have the patience to try to parse that manually. I guess really, the only REAL way of staying safe would be NOT to login/purchase on a computer that you don’t own, right?

]]> By: mike http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-32100 mike Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:59:21 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-32100 first of all, if you're OS allows things to install without your knowledge [you wouldn't intentionally install a key-logger would you?] then you are going to get fubared either way. second, if you are paranoid enough that you think you should need to use these tricks you shouldn't be entering sensitive data *at all*. third, a lot of these kind of programs are bundled with garbage-ware that I-D-ten-T users blindly install without a thought. solution? use common sense, be careful what sites you visit, keep your software up to date, consider alternative OSes, don't be install-happy and for the love of Tux, don't run *anything* under root or admin unless you absolutely positively must for the shortest time possible. otherwise you run a very real risk of getting hosed for no good reason. first of all, if you’re OS allows things to install without your knowledge [you wouldn't intentionally install a key-logger would you?] then you are going to get fubared either way. second, if you are paranoid enough that you think you should need to use these tricks you shouldn’t be entering sensitive data *at all*. third, a lot of these kind of programs are bundled with garbage-ware that I-D-ten-T users blindly install without a thought. solution? use common sense, be careful what sites you visit, keep your software up to date, consider alternative OSes, don’t be install-happy and for the love of Tux, don’t run *anything* under root or admin unless you absolutely positively must for the shortest time possible. otherwise you run a very real risk of getting hosed for no good reason.

]]> By: Michael Birks http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-31154 Michael Birks Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:14:02 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-31154 Thing about on-screen keyboards is that if the logger tracks x,y coords of the mouse click, a proper analysis would reveal what was typed. Especially if the logger also tracks active window to eliminate off-keyboard clicks. Thing about on-screen keyboards is that if the logger tracks x,y coords of the mouse click, a proper analysis would reveal what was typed.

Especially if the logger also tracks active window to eliminate off-keyboard clicks.

]]> By: Alexander http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-28124 Alexander Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:13:56 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-28124 Wouldn't mouse input using an on-screen keyboard bypass most keyloggers (as long as there isn't a screen capture device as well). There are freeware onscreen keyboards and, XP at least, already includes one under Accessories > Accessibility. No actual keystrokes but only mouse clicks would be required for the input of sensitive information. Wouldn’t mouse input using an on-screen keyboard bypass most keyloggers (as long as there isn’t a screen capture device as well). There are freeware onscreen keyboards and, XP at least, already includes one under Accessories > Accessibility. No actual keystrokes but only mouse clicks would be required for the input of sensitive information.

]]> By: Andreas http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-22531 Andreas Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:14:45 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-22531 try www.kyps.net :-) try http://www.kyps.net :-)

]]> By: Voxus http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-22296 Voxus Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:54:58 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-22296 Your gonna be vulnerable to this no matter what you type and how you type it. but most of the time key loggers leave little bits of them selves around and don't clean up (figuratively speaking here) witch means most good antivirus protection software can stop them... they wont be looking for your AIM account unless you have been specifically targeted for one reason or another (this doesnt have to be a grudge) same goes for IRC MSN ISQ any form of E-mail, or most of anything. they will look for credit card details most of the time, and if you enter your credit card on an untrusted computer, then your asking for it a little :P also Linux dose have very good defence as dose mac, this is because windows is the industry standard, and so hackers are after people who can't use windows but try anyway, as there are a hell of a lot of them. so Linux and mac are still venerable, hackers just don't care to try. Your gonna be vulnerable to this no matter what you type and how you type it. but most of the time key loggers leave little bits of them selves around and don’t clean up (figuratively speaking here) witch means most good antivirus protection software can stop them… they wont be looking for your AIM account unless you have been specifically targeted for one reason or another (this doesnt have to be a grudge) same goes for IRC MSN ISQ any form of E-mail, or most of anything.

they will look for credit card details most of the time, and if you enter your credit card on an untrusted computer, then your asking for it a little :P

also Linux dose have very good defence as dose mac, this is because windows is the industry standard, and so hackers are after people who can’t use windows but try anyway, as there are a hell of a lot of them. so Linux and mac are still venerable, hackers just don’t care to try.

]]> By: smocking http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html/comment-page-1#comment-22095 smocking Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:53:58 +0000 http://www.hackernotcracker.com/2007-10/beat-keyloggers-at-they-own-game-simple-ways-to-avoid-information-theft.html#comment-22095 This trick may work once on the same computer, but it's easy to figure out which characters keep occurring in the same order if you have multiple samples. Besides, there are plenty of keyloggers that register mouseclicks. It's much better to set up one-time passwords if you plan to login from untrusted computers. This trick may work once on the same computer, but it’s easy to figure out which characters keep occurring in the same order if you have multiple samples. Besides, there are plenty of keyloggers that register mouseclicks. It’s much better to set up one-time passwords if you plan to login from untrusted computers.

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